# Gainstaging Levels

**URL:** <https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124>\
**Category:** Teezio Mixing Chris Brown\
**Created:** [April 19, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124 "2024-04-19T09:06:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Leon2](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/leon2/32/79_2.png) [@Leon2](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Leon2)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 9:06am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/1 "2024-04-19T09:06:36Z")

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First of all, great video and great insights inside your workflow. I have one question regarding your gain staging, because I noticed, that on your mix bus plugins, the levels are pretty hot. How loud are you going to hit the mix bus before even processing on it? Especially on the god particle, the input is already over 0. And also I am interested in your gain staging concerning your levels of the tracks inside the session, so how loud you are going to level i.e. the kick before applying processing on it. I think there are different approaches to it, because I notice many engineers are going for around -14 to hit their plugins, and others just dont give a shit about that. Would be really interested in how your sight on this is.

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**Author:** ![Teezio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/teezio/32/1102_2.png) [@Teezio](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Teezio)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/2 "2024-04-22T15:41:25Z")

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i try to start with my kick around -15 /-14 and start to build and push up from there. as long as ur not distorting or fucking something up in the process your good. i try to care less about what volume im hitting a pluggin and just ask myself “does this sound good” ? alot of people get caught up with the technical stuff too much sometimes and they forget to have fun

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**Author:** ![Vladiscratus\_Trinity](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/vladiscratus_trinity/32/1375_2.png) [@Vladiscratus\_Trinity](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Vladiscratus_Trinity)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/3 "2024-04-23T17:02:33Z")

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Hi! -15 Db RMS, or Peak level or LUFS?

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**Author:** ![Teezio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/teezio/32/1102_2.png) [@Teezio](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Teezio)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/4 "2024-04-25T20:18:50Z")

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Yes i am talking about LUFS

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**Author:** ![William\_Bass](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/william_bass/32/1561_2.png) [@William\_Bass](https://community.mwtm.com/u/William_Bass)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/5 "2024-08-23T01:05:00Z")

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What’s Good Teezio and on that gain staging note what about when you get a 2-Track? what are you looking to hit before you bring in vocals?

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**Author:** ![Teezio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/teezio/32/1102_2.png) [@Teezio](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Teezio)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:26am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/6 "2024-08-26T03:26:40Z")

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usually around -8/-7 before vox come in

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**Author:** ![Jannis\_Wahler](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/jannis_wahler/32/79_2.png) [@Jannis\_Wahler](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Jannis_Wahler)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/7 "2024-08-29T11:20:26Z")

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Watup! When i set my Kick to hit -14 LUFS at the beginning i’m hitting -2.3 dbFS on my empty Master, which seems scary loud to me 😅 can i solve this “problem” with clipping and compressing the Kick or what would be best?

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**Author:** ![Teezio](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/teezio/32/1102_2.png) [@Teezio](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Teezio)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2024, 4:44pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/gainstaging-levels/6124/8 "2024-08-30T16:44:06Z")

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if you’re starting with you kick at -14 then ur master should be showing -14 something is wrong with the routing or gear if your seeing -14 lufs on kick but then -2 on master
