# Q for Jaycen: How do you "longer"the kick?

**URL:** <https://community.mwtm.com/t/q-for-jaycen-how-do-you-longer-the-kick/2209>\
**Category:** Jaycen Joshua - Mixing Workshop\
**Tags:** drums\
**Created:** [December 12, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/q-for-jaycen-how-do-you-longer-the-kick/2209 "2023-12-12T09:25:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![f.ern](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/f.ern/32/1425_2.png) [@f.ern](https://community.mwtm.com/u/f.ern)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/q-for-jaycen-how-do-you-longer-the-kick/2209/1 "2023-12-12T09:25:45Z")

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Hey Jaycen. Thanks for your generous knowledge sharing and great classes. I was wondering, in the latest class you said that when a kick doesn’t work and none of your typical moves doesn’t help you “longer” it. How do you do that? Do you replace the sample, stretch it out, boost sustain with transient designer or what is your technique for longering a printed kick sample?

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![Jaycen\_Joshua](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/jaycen_joshua/32/2051_2.png) [@Jaycen\_Joshua](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Jaycen_Joshua)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/q-for-jaycen-how-do-you-longer-the-kick/2209/2 "2023-12-15T21:15:27Z")

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Usually I’m looking to modify the envelope of the kick with a transient designer. My fav is the Neutron 2 Transient Shaper (I know its old but I hate the new interface). Otherwise if that doesnt work I’ll look to replace the sample.