# Transient and loudness

**URL:** https://community.mwtm.com/t/transient-and-loudness/2259
**Category:** Jaycen Joshua - Mixing Workshop
**Tags:** drums
**Created:** [December 13, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/transient-and-loudness/2259 "2023-12-13T00:51:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 2
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### Author: ![Menno\_Dereu](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/menno_dereu/32/79_2.png) [@Menno\_Dereu](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Menno_Dereu)
#### Post date: [December 13, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/transient-and-loudness/2259/1 "2023-12-13T00:51:07Z")

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Hey Jaycen,

You emphasise the importance of transients a lot in your video’s. I really like the way you treat transients in all your mixes.  
However at some point in the mixing/mastering process the transients in my songs get crushed by compressing/limiting because of loudness goals.

How do you deal with this? Wont transients always be crushed at some stage in the mixing/mastering process?

Anyways thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge on here!

Kind regards 🙂

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### Author: ![Jaycen\_Joshua](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.mwtm.com/jaycen_joshua/32/2051_2.png) [@Jaycen\_Joshua](https://community.mwtm.com/u/Jaycen_Joshua)
#### Post date: [December 18, 2023, 8:59pm UTC](https://community.mwtm.com/t/transient-and-loudness/2259/2 "2023-12-18T20:59:27Z")

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Yes - if you’re limiting hard you’re always going to technically lose the physical transients. The key is to add frequencies and distortion in a way as to trick the ear that the transients are still there. For example, adding a higher frequency tick to the kick in parallel is going to make the kick seem sharper
